tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post4753525522901932219..comments2023-08-05T07:24:04.413-05:00Comments on Hope n' Change Cartoons: American WorkfarceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-173145068532331592012-04-22T10:54:30.813-05:002012-04-22T10:54:30.813-05:00@Airotciv- Believe me, you've got an advocate ...@Airotciv- Believe me, you've got an advocate right here: two members of my immediate family have needed treatment for seizure disorder (happily, one no longer needs it) and so I'm completely against <i>unfair</i> restrictions on work. But as you said, to the extent that it affects the safety of others (and even concerns like productivity) it's a fair and legitimate consideration for employers.<br /><br />And I'm glad you like the cartoons here and find them thought-provoking. I frequently wish that we could all drop labels like liberals, moderates, and conservatives and just honestly talk about what our shared goals are, what's working, what isn't, and how to make more good things happen for more people (or create an environment in which people can make those good things happen for themselves).Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-4165883453258470332012-04-22T10:24:48.981-05:002012-04-22T10:24:48.981-05:00Weird bill. i always hoped most people exercised c...Weird bill. i always hoped most people exercised common sense when applying for jobs. Most, but not all apparently...<br /><br />Case in point, I have seizures and take meds and the like for it. But I still do get them occasionally. It just happens. At my jobs (yes, plural, 2 part times), there's no driving involved. I use public transport. All of that fun stuff. But I wouldn't apply for a job where that's a big thing because of my condition, I wouldn't want to hurt someone.<br /><br />At the same time, people are judgmental. There wasn't a clause in the bill stating 'if they're qualified for the position and don't endanger things'? Though you did just say the bit about the truck driver...<br /><br />Ugh. Headache now. Stilton, stop the comics, you're making me think! You're hurting the moderate! (Just kidding love these things, don't you ever stop them, please!) :)Airotcivhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954238468019752061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-81024522146531011662012-04-12T17:52:06.523-05:002012-04-12T17:52:06.523-05:00Chuck...don't forget, though, if you're an...Chuck...don't forget, though, if you're an INDIAN you can kill bald eagles in a religious ceremony....Suzynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-47467510307177988772012-04-12T15:57:11.458-05:002012-04-12T15:57:11.458-05:00Only the crippled athletesOnly the crippled athletesStan da Mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-2661315841132269792012-04-12T13:50:59.890-05:002012-04-12T13:50:59.890-05:00While not exactly on the topic of the seven percen...While not exactly on the topic of the seven percent Obama wants legislate, this is not unconnected -- via Powerline blog inre: the mendacity of the Buffet Rule:<br />"So how about if the GOP responds to any legislation incorporating the Buffett Rule by seeing the Democrats their demagoguery and raising them with a couple of demagogic proposals of their own, in the form of proposed amendments? The Republicans could say, sure, we’ll go along with the Buffett Rule if you Democrats will agree to the Reynolds Tax, a 50% surtax on the increased incomes of former government officials when they move into the private sector, working for the same companies they once regulated. Or Republicans could offer an amendment incorporating the Clooney Rule, based on the fact that actors and actresses are such advocates of higher taxes: a new, 80% tax rate on all income in excess of $1 million earned by acting in any film or theatrical production. Or they could counter with the K Street Rule, an 80% tax on all income in excess of $1 million earned by lobbying. Or the Ambulance Chaser Tax, an 80% levy on all lawyer contingent fee income in excess of 10% of a recovery. (That one would provoke howling from coast to coast, from one of the Democrats’ prime constituencies.)"<br />http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/04/how-should-republicans-respond-to-the-buffett-ploy.php<br /><br />This should also be levied against athletes with absurdly large incomes, yes?Gang of Onenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-31068294493732359422012-04-12T11:25:30.747-05:002012-04-12T11:25:30.747-05:00Emmentaller - Thanks! that was probably the cooles...Emmentaller - Thanks! that was probably the coolest thing I've seen all month!Pete(Detroit)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-11594765967345216002012-04-12T09:03:11.042-05:002012-04-12T09:03:11.042-05:00@Stilt: He doesn't invite you for the same rea...@Stilt: He doesn't invite you for the same reason he doesn't invite anyone else: it ain't <i>about</i> us. Only <i>him</i>. That you're a conservative who sucks at golf notwithstanding. And, to be truthful, the only time I ever set foot on a golf course, it was covered in snow, and I had a tobaggan in hand. Closest I came to the pin? When I was a mere "ute," I was given a set of clubs a neighbor outgrew. Never quite figured a use for them...Emmentaler Limburgerhttp://pateratic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-66614427251665120262012-04-12T08:45:39.758-05:002012-04-12T08:45:39.758-05:00@Chuck- You've got several hugely important th...@Chuck- You've got several hugely important themes in your comment. But the one I'll focus on is this: in the face of huge, serious, urgent, and very real problems <i>we focus on the inane</i>. When the voting populace would rather be entertained than informed, we're screwed. And yes, we may very well be there already.<br /><br />@Unknown- That's a <i>fantastic</i> idea. And let me additionally applaud the fact that while I'm sulking about this idiotic policy, you're thinking of ways to turn it into something good. <br /><br />@Pete(Detroit)- The pinball machine in my head starting ringing (in a good way) when you made the distinction between <i>equal</i> opportunity and <i>special</i> opportunity. One is good, the other is bad. Unfortunately, it's the <i>bad</i> one that is implemented every time.<br /><br />@Emmentaler- I'm already on the record as not being able to speak on matters of religion - but I <i>will</i> posit that God won't need to lift a finger to get rid of our society unless things change. Wherever "free will" comes from, it will surely destroy those who don't exercise it with restraint, responsibility, and selflessness.<br /><br />Regarding golf, my entire experience is one bucket of balls on a driving range, and any number of miniature golf courses. I assume this lack of experience explains why Obama never calls to invite me to a foursome on the links.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-11179672455716081612012-04-12T06:51:13.783-05:002012-04-12T06:51:13.783-05:00@Chuck: I can't speak for God, but we're s...@Chuck: I can't speak for God, but we're sounding an awful lot like myriad other societies that he saw fit to do away with, aren't we? But show him one or two, lad. Just one or two...<br /><br />@Pete: You can hit a golf ball? I can't <i>AFFORD</i> to hit a golf ball - not that I have anything against the wee little dimpled orbs (Saw a really incredible high-speed series once of a golf ball hitting a wall at 100MPH. Just about flattened out, but sprung back to its usual form and continued on in the opposite direction. You'd never believe how much flexibility is there! Looked like a drop of water! <a href="http://www.snotr.com/video/4715/Golf_Ball_Hitting_Steel" rel="nofollow">http://www.snotr.com/video/4715/Golf_Ball_Hitting_Steel</a> Amazing, them poor, defenseless bludgeon targets! I wish <i>I</i> were so resilient...)Emmentaler Limburgerhttp://pateratic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-66681270977302019732012-04-11T19:50:26.207-05:002012-04-11T19:50:26.207-05:00I think he DID, Stilt - he singled us out 2 to 1 a...I think he DID, Stilt - he singled us out 2 to 1 against the one legged and 'da ebil choos!'<br /><br />Fortunately, I am an evolved, rational person, and realize that "You Make Me Feel" is the BIGGEST lie. I am in charge of my feelings! I am in charge of my own orgasm! (Terri Garr's character in "Tootsie") <br /><br />Anyway, moving right along... <br />The ONLY problem I can see w/ hiring Vets, Unkn, is the same issue I have w/ any other 'disabled' person - 1) can they DO the job, w/o undue hazard to themselves or others, 2) were they given EQUAL opportunity, or SPECIAL opportunity?<br /><br />But then I'm an insensitive bastard like that.<br /><br />(for the record, I'm in full agreement w/ others here - people SHOULD be encouraged to become full, contributing members of society, to the best of their ability / desires. But not at the expense of my safety)Pete(Detroit)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-29481693974925869752012-04-11T19:19:50.891-05:002012-04-11T19:19:50.891-05:00The only solution to this farcical requirement is ...The only solution to this farcical requirement is to have employers hire all the vets being forced out due to budget cuts. Anyone who's been in a combat zone has some hearing loss or other loss that should qualify as a disability. And you have to believe these folks know teamwork and have a great work ethic!Habumikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13203929966039526472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-47863730165903667282012-04-11T19:01:15.130-05:002012-04-11T19:01:15.130-05:00And divided we fall …
And the left is doing EVERY...And divided we fall …<br /><br />And the left is doing EVERYTHING they can to divide us. I can’t even count the ways anymore: Race; Income; Religion; Sex; Sexual Orientation; Locale; Health; Weight; and the list goes on.<br /><br />You are right: if we blow this election (if it even happens …) we can kiss goodbye to another. But, just how much fraud will it take to get Ø reelected? We already know the Attorney Generals personal ballot will be given to anyone. And Ø got on the ballot fraudulently in at least one state in 2008 (so did Hillary). How much integrity is left in the system? Enough?<br /><br />I’m not so sure. And then there is the fact that …<br /><br />… we worry about the inane. What really matters?<br /><br />If you accidentally damage a Bald Eagle egg, you’re looking at prison. Abort a baby (or 50 million babies)? – That’s okay.<br /><br />And our choice for 2012 will be between a candidate that will defend abortion on demand and one that believes a child that survives the abortion process should be left to die. That’s some choice we’ve got there. I wonder what God thinks … <br /><br />Just asking …Chucknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-39748631230850901872012-04-11T17:06:20.546-05:002012-04-11T17:06:20.546-05:00@rickn8or- Theoretically, you're right; this c...@rickn8or- Theoretically, you're right; this <i>could</i> take some people off of disability payments and make them into taxpayers. But will that make up for the $1.8 billion that businesses lose in compliance costs? I doubt it.<br /><br />@CenTexTim- Kafkaesque is the <i>perfect</i> word.<br /><br />@John the Econ- As I've said before, Bill Clinton was the nation's first white "black president," Obama is the first half-black "black president," and the first totally black president has yet to be elected (and might well be that conservative you mentioned).<br /><br />@Mike Porter- It's these little flickers that give us hope. Plus, if I've got to choose between "hopeless" and a <i>scintilla</i> of hope, I'll do it. And right now, that's a vote for Romney.<br /><br />@Emmentaler- I'm with you on this one. I'm afraid that if we lost this election, there won't necessarily <i>be</i> a "next one."<br /><br />@Colby- Indeed, disabled folks should have every opportunity for which they're legitimately qualified. But when artificial quotas potentially put people at risk (from that "hazardous materials" truck, for instance) then the government is acting insanely. Which, of course, can't legally preclude them from holding down jobs.<br /><br />@Suzy- All of us.<br /><br />@Pete(Detroit)- I'm sure John didn't mean to hurt your feelings.<br /><br />@Pryorguy- I had much less enthusiasm for McCain than I do for Romney...and I voted for him anyway. Trust me, casting ANY vote against Obama in November will be a pleasure I've yearned four years for.<br /><br />@Emmentaler- But outside of the stupid people and evil people, who does Obama have in his base of support? Granted, there's a slew of them...Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-27354910908821338742012-04-11T17:04:17.343-05:002012-04-11T17:04:17.343-05:00Obama: The Post-Rational President!<b>Obama: The <i>Post-Rational</i> President!</b>BS Footprinthttp://bsfootprint.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-77337833780625162692012-04-11T16:32:07.564-05:002012-04-11T16:32:07.564-05:00@priorguy: Unfortunately, there remains too many t...@priorguy: Unfortunately, there remains too many that don't see his performance for what it is. And those who do, but are cheering him on toward <i>their</i> goals...Emmentaler Limburgerhttp://pateratic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-45402838096384166772012-04-11T16:28:01.666-05:002012-04-11T16:28:01.666-05:00I think Mitt's a little squishy, too...but I c...I think Mitt's a little squishy, too...but I cannot recall a time when I voted that I felt completely sure of anybody in another prez election than I do about Romney. It's all about the same. I mean, how can we be sure? All politicians will do and say whatever to get into office! Obama's gotta go...thats the main thing...a great place to start on a recovery! <br /><br />I think right now, every one of us would be pretty disappointed in McCain had he won, not realizing the bullet we dodged if he had beaten obama! Maybe now more people will pay a bit more attention after obama's 'rape and pillage' of America!pryorguynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-54935258697415872242012-04-11T15:48:47.736-05:002012-04-11T15:48:47.736-05:00Suzy, that would be my carrier - or was a few year...Suzy, that would be my carrier - or was a few years ago. I routinely got mail for my neighbors. One woudl think the ability to accurately get the mail to the correct address would be part of the job, no? <br /><br />And hey, <b>John the Econ</b> - whatchya got against us near sighted types? Just because I can hit a golf ball further than I can see it does not mean I'm not a worthy person. <br />>snif< <br />and not like I hit 'em all that FAR...Pete(Detroit)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-24608080034474874042012-04-11T14:45:59.913-05:002012-04-11T14:45:59.913-05:00Wonder who's going to get the postal worker wh...Wonder who's going to get the postal worker who is dyslexic....Suzynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-18605364909394052132012-04-11T13:00:45.745-05:002012-04-11T13:00:45.745-05:007 percent shouldn't be so hard to reach. Afte...7 percent shouldn't be so hard to reach. After all, THEY claim they are at 99% already.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong; I'm all for disabled folks getting a fair shake and as many breaks as possible, but I don't think it's a great idea to have a Parkinson's patient assembling helicoptors for the Army or rifles for the Marines.<br /><br />When you think about it, you hafta wonder why this nonsense only effects companies that do work for the gubmint. You know damn well BO and his minions would rather require EVERY employer to comply. Maybe somebody with a brain told them they couldn't do that??Colbynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-91773586077330960102012-04-11T12:21:59.107-05:002012-04-11T12:21:59.107-05:00Here's my opinion on voting for Romney: A vote...Here's my opinion on voting for Romney: A vote for Øbama in 2012 is a vote for no voting in 2016 and beyond. We, as a country, will have shown our hand, and worrying about federal judge/supreme court appointments will have been obviated. The tyrants will settle in, lock, stock and barrel - after all: the electorate will have shown them that that is what is desired.<br /><br />It is my fervent hope that the same wasn't true in 2008, but November is still too far off to be absolutely sure...<br /><br />Again, as I've said many times in the past: we can limp along under a squishy RINO. If Øbama gets back in: stick a fork in us. We're done.<br /><br />(Oh, and I can think of several others who would actually be, at best, on par with Øbama as president. Hordes of them. Starting with most sitting in congress today, then moving on to the likes of jackson, farrakhan, sharpton, matthews, couric,...)Emmentaler Limburgerhttp://pateratic.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-69672651052839779472012-04-11T12:02:14.307-05:002012-04-11T12:02:14.307-05:00AHD: Can't help but agree with Stilton in that...AHD: Can't help but agree with Stilton in that America cannot withstand another four years of these evil bastards. Even if we manage to limit the destruction to the one term there is still plenty of damage in need of repair for years to come. Giving this traitor another four years would be tantamount to national suicide. And in all honesty, I had pretty much given up hope until I heard that the fifth circuit spanked his DOJ asshat in front of God and everybody. Say what you will about the motives of Judge Smith in all of this, but for a moment I glimpsed a future in which Lady Liberty just might survive.Mike Porternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-26854592357341540102012-04-11T11:46:28.398-05:002012-04-11T11:46:28.398-05:00Oh, an aside: I am happy to report that contrary t...Oh, an aside: I am happy to report that contrary to my posting from last week that I was wrong about my prediction that the first "Black" president of the United State would not be a liberal Democrat, that I was wrong about being wrong.<br /><br />This occurred to me after hearing an exchange yesterday regarding a person who had a Hispanic mother and white father who had been told that it was improper (and perhaps illegal) that she had registered herself as "Hispanic" in her employment file. The woman retorted to the indignant PC-HR drone that if that was in fact the case, then Barack Obama could not be "black" either, or America's first "Black President.<br /><br />So my prediction still stands.John the Econnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-1949067693929231392012-04-11T09:10:08.663-05:002012-04-11T09:10:08.663-05:00Words fail me...
I take that back. There is one w...Words fail me...<br /><br />I take that back. There is one word that comes to mind: "Kafkaesque."CenTexTimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04026518638421849111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-10376174077151701092012-04-11T08:55:52.958-05:002012-04-11T08:55:52.958-05:00One thing this latest decree from the pResident do...One thing this latest decree from the pResident does is move the cost of maintining some of the disabled from the government to the private sector. And turn them into taxpayers.<br /><br />Why, it's just MADE of win!rickn8orhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16911803300343351338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-56890353961869359492012-04-11T08:46:21.213-05:002012-04-11T08:46:21.213-05:00@John the Econ- You're correct that this will ...@John the Econ- You're correct that this will be the gift that keeps on giving for America's trial lawyers. Now, the most inept idiots in America can file (and perhaps win) lawsuits if they're not hired and they have a hammer toe or a kinetic rectal pressure disorder (Pfarter's Syndrome).<br /><br />@Angry Hoosier Dad- Am I confident in Romney? Nope - other than that I'm confident there is <i>no one worse in America</i> for the job of president than Obama. But that being said, I <i>am</i> hoping that he could pleasantly surprise us. And yes, "hope" is just that. But without that hope, this webcomic wouldn't be here - there would be no point.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.com