tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post4028753900126322236..comments2023-08-05T07:24:04.413-05:00Comments on Hope n' Change Cartoons: Obamacare Update: Guilty Until Proven InnocentUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-52597537335733567412016-03-08T20:31:25.683-06:002016-03-08T20:31:25.683-06:00@Stilton
Many people have an bad experience at th...@Stilton <br />Many people have an bad experience at the Doctor, Dentist or other care provider for X reasons. That experience understandably, causes a certain amount of anxiety about receiving similar care ever again. But, we must remember that a negative experience with one member of a profession doesn’t make all members bad. This includes law enforcement, clergy, medical doctors, dentists, chiropractors and even bloggers. And remember, if a health care provider causes too many bad experiences or poor results, they aren’t likely to be in business very long. Ask your friends for a referral when you are ready and share your concerns with the provider. <br /><br />BTW Medicare and Obamacare covers chiropractic care for a few visits. One can purchase an “over the door cervical traction kit” if you want to self-treat. They are found all over the ‘net. Read and follow the instructions.Joseph EThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06709206065509079427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-50147893455793506152016-03-08T20:20:12.164-06:002016-03-08T20:20:12.164-06:00I guess we should be thankful to be the last gener...I guess we should be thankful to be the last generation spoiled enough to realize what is wrong about how most other countries do things.....???? Suzynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-69818270351681934332016-03-08T19:20:55.852-06:002016-03-08T19:20:55.852-06:00@It's No Gouda- Exactly. The warning is there ...@It's No Gouda- Exactly. The warning is there for everyone to see, but we still don't heed it.<br /><br />@Pete (Detroit)- I'm experimenting with some speech-to-text solutions even now (albeit not for this post). The technology has come a long way!<br /><br />@John the Econ- We've kicked this around before, and remain in agreement. Next stop is "single payer" no matter who gets the presidency. It may get a different name, but as you say there's no going back now.<br /><br />@Bobo the Hobo- I understand your annoyance, but you really should have thrown the car into reverse to make sure that he wasn't suffering. Several times, if necessary.<br /><br />@Joseph ET- I had some bad experiences with a chiropractor in my youth, so am looking to that as a course of last resort.<br /><br />And great point about the behavioral restrictions we'll soon be looking at in order to protect "the public health."<br /><br />@Anonymous- You're right that cars with human drivers will probably be banned sooner than we'd expect. It's always about control.<br /><br />@Chuck Baker- I never realized that "politics" was from Latin. Based on the government's preferred way of screwing us, I assumed it was Greek.<br /><br />@Pete (Detroit)- I enjoyed the Fox News townhall with Hillary and Bernie in Detroit last night. Very well done, very respectful, and each candidate was given enough time to reveal the depth of their idiocy.<br /><br />@Colby Muenster- Exactly. Bernie Sanders said (at the townhall) that EVERYONE has a right to free medical care, and the poor should get the same treatment as the billionaires. My question: does EVERYone get EVERY procedure available? Does that 73 year old get a hip replacement? Can the 85 year old get a heart transplant? Can a person be kept "alive" on a heart-lung machine eternally? If there are no limits, then the system collapses. If there ARE limits, then then mendacity of Bernie and his ilk readily becomes apparent.<br /><br />@Pete (Detroit)- I agree. Bernie strikes me as a well-intentioned schmuck, but Hillary is a genuinely evil person.<br /><br />@Geoff King- It seems that way, though I'm still holding out a little hope for Cruz. But you know me - I'm a tremendous optimist. (Ha!)<br /><br />@John the Econ- The regulation of procreative activities is <i>absolutely</i> in line with the Dems goal of controlling individual behavior for the "common good." I'd just like to see them try to institute and enforce it...<br /><br />@Anonymous- I appreciate the tip, and have heard about a number of such services (and am forwarding such info to my niece). I have friends and family members using such services and they like them. Personally, I can't go that route because I'm not a Christian (or anything else - though at least I try not to be an asshole) and I respect people of faith too much to lie about it.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-24921190977489434692016-03-08T18:49:56.239-06:002016-03-08T18:49:56.239-06:00LibertyShare. Christians helping Christians affor...LibertyShare. Christians helping Christians afford reasonable healthcare. Check them out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-36797714947158907112016-03-08T18:13:15.050-06:002016-03-08T18:13:15.050-06:00@Joseph ET, as we become more of a "socialist...@Joseph ET, as we become more of a "socialist" country and the commerce clause becomes an excuse to regulate anything that might possibly affect someone else, I'll be going on a personal freedom rampage. This is the part of "socialism" that the '60s socialists like Bernie either are ignorant of, or just don't like to talk about for obvious reasons. In order for a socialist state to be viable, all citizens must be accountable to all other citizens. Period.<br /><br />So yes, go ahead and publically humiliate the 300 point person at the cash register buying junk food on food stamps.<br /><br />Here's my big one: How many of our social and economic problems are due to idiotic breeding and sexually transmitted diseases? I have an easy solution. <b>Outlaw all extramarital sex"</b>. Period.<br /><br />See how well that goes over!John the Econnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-71499267576991576072016-03-08T17:23:10.262-06:002016-03-08T17:23:10.262-06:00A vote for any Republican or Democrat contender is...A vote for any Republican or Democrat contender is a vote for the status quo. Trump, Clinton, Cruz, Rubio, or Sanders are all the same. Vote for any of them and you can kiss what remains of our Constitution and our nation goodbye.<br />There no longer is a "lesser of two evils" to choose from. They are all the same candidate, and a vote for any of them is a vote against our country.Geoff Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01702402850031773761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-79750281836246748752016-03-08T14:56:27.382-06:002016-03-08T14:56:27.382-06:00Here in MI, you don't have to be registered as...Here in MI, you don't have to be registered as any particular thing, but you're not allowed (in primaries, at least) to vote across lines on the same ballot. I have since learned that we're a proportional state, so voting 'not Trump' is actually useful. <br />Still, it would be happy to help hand Hillary her huge ass on a tin platter - and Bernie's mainly just WRONG, that B*tch is forkin' EVIL... Pete (Detroit)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-14214929175969625182016-03-08T12:26:39.714-06:002016-03-08T12:26:39.714-06:00Pete (Detroit),
I live in NC, where you can regis...Pete (Detroit),<br /><br />I live in NC, where you can register as "unaffiliated" rather than claiming one useless party over the other useless party. I heard on the radio this morning that more than a few conservative types are going to ask for a Democrat ballot and vote for Bernie. I don't much like the idea, but I can sure understand it!<br /><br />Single payer? There are plenty examples of how wonderful it is in Europe. Are you 73 and need a new hip in order to walk to the grocer's? Oh well... hope you like oxycontin or hydrocodone and have a functioning liver. Need a liver transplant? Time to shop for a coffin and burial plot.Colby Muensterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16910666550508273829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-61628552136752550002016-03-08T11:23:02.439-06:002016-03-08T11:23:02.439-06:00Primary day today here in MI, looks like Trump is ...Primary day today here in MI, looks like Trump is running away w/ it, so I'm probably going to go vote against Hillary... Pete (Detroit)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-38469914811323245062016-03-08T06:55:38.347-06:002016-03-08T06:55:38.347-06:00Politics
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tics (...Politics<br /><br />from the latin<br />poli (poly = many)<br />tics (ticks = blood-sucking parasites) <br />Chuck Bakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-23745954464092382032016-03-07T20:51:30.287-06:002016-03-07T20:51:30.287-06:00Don't forget "driving your own motor vehi...Don't forget "driving your own motor vehicle," now that self-driving "smart cars" are almost ready for the government to cram down all our throats.<br /><br />Oh, don't have $50K burning a hole in your pockets for a new "Google Smart Car?" Too bad.<br /><br />Oh, did you want to travel today? Too bad, Citizen--the government has remotely shut down all Smart Cars in your state due to "Global Warming." If you wish to exercise your right to travel, put on your walking shoes. Oh, and have your internal passport ready when questioned by Homeland Security patrols.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-14469337962467940622016-03-07T20:14:34.120-06:002016-03-07T20:14:34.120-06:00@ Stilton I had a similar condition some years ago...@ Stilton I had a similar condition some years ago. Went to my brother-in-law the Chiropractor and he did some cervical traction on and off for a couple of days and with an adjustment or two all was better and still is.<br /><br />The next shoe to fall for health care is to outlaw all activities that could cost the system money.<br />Things to be outlawed.<br /><br />Alcoholic beverages<br />Sugary drinks<br />Coffee<br />Sky diving<br />Scuba diving<br />Driving motor cycles or even bicycles<br />Using a keyboard<br />And thousands moreJoseph EThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06709206065509079427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-42279372193663311182016-03-07T19:59:26.299-06:002016-03-07T19:59:26.299-06:00This morning some liberal wearing an Obama tee-shi...This morning some liberal wearing an Obama tee-shirt smashed my windshield. I was so annoyed that I didn't even pull over and check on him.Bobo the Hobonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-7347767351066884072016-03-07T19:02:15.901-06:002016-03-07T19:02:15.901-06:00@Unknown, my answer would be, "Yes, for many,...@Unknown, my answer would be, "Yes, for many, ObamaCare is much worse that theoretical 'singer payer' would be."<br /><br />But ObamaCare was never meant to actually work. It's fundamental flaws are actually by design. It's real goal was not the efficient delivery of health care, but always to destroy what was left of the private care and insurance industries in this country. Republican promises to "repeal" ObamaCare are pointless because there is nothing to go back to. The doctor I liked is gone. The insurance policy I liked is gone. Neither are coming back no matter what Congress does. The collateral damage to the system is permanent. They don't have a time machine to take us all back to 2010. There's only one way left to go now, and "single payer" is it.John the Econnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-66555295544762821562016-03-07T15:19:55.573-06:002016-03-07T15:19:55.573-06:00Stilt, have you tried speech to text programs? The...Stilt, have you tried speech to text programs? The on my phone, while not perfect, is not bad... <br />Hope you can find someone to make the adjustment needed to unlock your arm / pinkie... I had a pinch in the rump (bone based, or muscle never determined) that was giving me sciatic hell for a few weeks last fall - literally, I feel for ya!Pete (Detroit)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-25560150866353786362016-03-07T15:11:41.092-06:002016-03-07T15:11:41.092-06:00Unknown: If you want a good idea of what "sin...Unknown: If you want a good idea of what "single payer" would be like, think the VA multiplied by 100,000 times.It's No Goudanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-59563610461293829372016-03-07T14:26:31.143-06:002016-03-07T14:26:31.143-06:00@Colby Muenster- My stupid pinched nerve starts in...@Colby Muenster- My stupid pinched nerve starts in the neck, feels like a painful knot in my left shoulder, and then radiates pain and tingling down my arm - leaving my little finger simultaneously numb and painful and very sensitive if I try to type. It sucks, and I need to TRY to get away from the keyboard. That being said...<br /><br />@Unknown- Others will hopefully weigh in on this, but single-payer WOULD cut out the current insurance company middlemen...and replace them with government middlemen. Still, it could almost sorta-kinda be an improvement in THEORY, but sadly we don't live in a theoretical world. In reality, the incentive to practice medicine will be destroyed, as will the incentive to come up with new treatments and innovations. Without enough suppliers, medical care will be rationed - meaning long waiting lines and denial of services. Plus, government bookkeepers will decide just who should receive the rationed healthcare to accomplish "the most good." Surprise - it will be whomever they expect to work and pay taxes for the longest period of time. Over 60? Well, you've had a good run - now go crawl under the porch and die quietly rather than using up precious taxpayer money.<br /><br />Putting it another way: past a certain age, the government bookkeepers <i>want you dead</i>. Oh, it's nothing personal - but the longer you live, the more money you take out of Medicare and Social Security. One of the easiest ways to balance the books is to simply declare that there's not enough healthcare to go around - at which point you'll be given, in Obama's words, "painkillers instead of pacemakers."Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-61378608998284604842016-03-07T13:42:48.728-06:002016-03-07T13:42:48.728-06:00I have a question, but before asking let me say th...I have a question, but before asking let me say that I am also one of those now WITHOUT insurance thanks to Obamacare; the cheapest plan I can find with O'care is OVER TWICE the price (for FAR less benefits!) than the GREAT PPO plan I had previously! Just paying the penalty (and going without insurance) is FAR less than what I would be paying for the (absolute CRAP!) HMO offered by O'care!<br /><br />Now my question: <br /> Forgive my ignorance, but isn't what we have now WORSE than single-payer? I mean, it seems that the ONLY people O'care benefits is the INSURANCE COMPANIES who can now charge us through the nose, and then claim we don't exist (or worse) when we need payment for medical care! At least with single-payer wouldn't we be - to at least SOME extent - "cutting out the middle man" (the zillions of dollars being paid to the now USELESS insurance companies) AND additional mountains of paperwork? <br /> Again, forgive the ignorance, but wouldn't single-payer be BETTER than what we have now?!<br /> (DISCLAIMER: I am NOT condoning single-payer! I think O'care should be TRASHED ASAP! Just wondering about why some people have implied that O'care is somehow better than '1-payer'...? Someone please enlighten me.)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06735674274864416908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-31317471968569389442016-03-07T12:37:23.314-06:002016-03-07T12:37:23.314-06:00Stilton,
I am truly sorry about your pinched nerve...Stilton,<br />I am truly sorry about your pinched nerve (suffer myself, but the pain is in my arm), but it struck me as ironic that you are posting about how incredibly pathetic our "healthcare" "system" is while suffering from a condition that it likely won't pay to get fixed. Hope and change indeed....<br /><br />American Cowboy,<br />Whew! For a minute there, I thought your were talking about the death record of Tow-mater. You know, that beat up tow truck that sounds like Larry the Cable Guy.<br /><br />REM1875,<br />Read the fine print. Is your health care not costing you at least that amount or more per year? Colby Muensterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16910666550508273829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-68417836982093907842016-03-07T12:15:17.512-06:002016-03-07T12:15:17.512-06:00Anybody else missing zero's promised $2500?Anybody else missing zero's promised $2500?REM1875https://www.blogger.com/profile/04847984055699795355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-47720032262807161582016-03-07T11:42:15.583-06:002016-03-07T11:42:15.583-06:00Thank God the Republicans promised to repeal Øbama...Thank God the Republicans promised to repeal Øbamacare. We know they would never lie to us.Geoff Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01702402850031773761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-82820752851119882552016-03-07T11:10:32.029-06:002016-03-07T11:10:32.029-06:00Stilt: Of course they cover that(just ask 'em...Stilt: Of course they cover that(just ask 'em); but you'll never see a payment or a provider reimbursement. <br /><br />Off that topic and not-governmental.. I just saved my elderly parents a BIG annual premium payment by knowing their LTC contract. One term covers waiver of premium under certain conditions... what a surprise!... they missed it and billed them as usual. "Oh so sorry" they say. Sorry my ass, IMO they just got caught. <br /><br />When it comes to money it's getting harder to trust. Buyer beware and be aware. The same goes for voters. Rodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-68148669271259110442016-03-07T10:41:24.638-06:002016-03-07T10:41:24.638-06:00@Readers- Great comments! I'm here and I'm...<b>@Readers-</b> Great comments! I'm here and I'm reading everything, but sadly can't really respond at length owing to a pinched nerve which is making it hard for me to do anything at the computer. I wonder if Obamacare covers the treatment of a repetitive stress injury related to obsessive blogging about what a fustercluck Obamacare is?Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-11208298963339739262016-03-07T10:25:55.062-06:002016-03-07T10:25:55.062-06:00The wife and I went through the annoyance of our p...The wife and I went through the annoyance of our policy getting canceled every year because it no longer met the guidelines of Obamacare (part of the "if you like your policy you can keep it" lie). Only to be replaced by a more expensive and higher deductible plan.<br /><br />We got fed up and now no longer have insurance. However we don't have to pay the fine because we became members of Christian Healthcare Ministries. Basically its not insurance, but instead a "healthcare sharing" system that Probably wouldn't work well for you Stilton as it doesn't cover meds (and it sounds like you need meds covered). But for most of us out here its a pretty good deal.<br /><br />Costs us $300 a month for my wife and I (so that would be $150 for a single person or I think $450 for a family) plus $50 a quarter for the major medical rider they call "Brothers' Keeper" so we're covered for anything with only a $500 deductible.<br /><br />You have to be a practicing, church going Christian to qualify (it only is allowed to exist as a religious exemption to Obamacare) and it doesn't cover preventative stuff but for young healthy Christians its really an excellent deal. <br /><br />Anyway, I swear I'm not spamming ... I don't get anything by posting this, just thought I'd share. http://www.chministries.org/Zundfolgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13129323146380476349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-79914531780527522282016-03-07T09:23:29.419-06:002016-03-07T09:23:29.419-06:00Bureaucrat - that word comes from the Arabic, mean...<br />Bureaucrat - that word comes from the Arabic, meaning fat-aassed, lazy, morons. I know this.<br /><br />What are we talking about here? A political "reformation" is needed. Where is our Luther?<br /><br />Why do "progressives" love bureaucrats so much? Don't answer that, I know this.<br /><br />Luther?! This, I don't know. Can he wear a vest? I have plenty. And goats. Allah of Dystopianoreply@blogger.com