tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post7516116288619900965..comments2023-08-05T07:24:04.413-05:00Comments on Hope n' Change Cartoons: Old FlamesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger67125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-42182028909899782282011-06-28T20:26:54.678-05:002011-06-28T20:26:54.678-05:00@Anonymous- Tolerance (including in a legal sense)...@Anonymous- Tolerance (including in a legal sense) is all anyone can ask. Acceptance is a personal decision. And Forced Acceptance isn't something that can, or should, be legislated in America.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-51566080795565565092011-06-28T20:24:17.522-05:002011-06-28T20:24:17.522-05:00Tolerance - Yes
Acceptance - No
Force Acceptance -...Tolerance - Yes<br />Acceptance - No<br />Force Acceptance - baseball bat to head, no compunctionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-57646155868978376702011-06-27T10:56:05.948-05:002011-06-27T10:56:05.948-05:00@Anonymous (two above)- You know, having compassio...@Anonymous (two above)- You know, having compassion for the victims in <i>both</i> groups won't make you "bi."<br /><br />@Andrew- <i>Amen.</i>Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-58290658477596934352011-06-27T09:53:43.277-05:002011-06-27T09:53:43.277-05:00I am going to have to point this out on the subjec...I am going to have to point this out on the subject of Gay Christians because I really don't understand how any Christian can get past this scripture ...<br /><br />1 Corinthians 6:9-11<br />9 Don’t you know that the unrighteous l will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be deceived: No sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, or anyone practicing homosexuality, no thieves, greedy people, drunkards, verbally abusive people, or swindlers will inherit God’s kingdom. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.<br /><br />Notice though, that it lists adulterers (which I myself have been in the past) before it lists homosexuals. In the context of sin, there is no difference between cheating on your spouse and practicing homosexuality. (so if you are sexting that hot girl from work behind your wife's back, you really dont have much moral ground to stand on while you bash your gay neighbor. And just to be crystal clear, this passage does NOT mean that if you commit one of those sins that you will automatically go to hell (see verse 11), what it means is that anyone who practices ANY one of those sins without guilt more than likely does not have the love of God in his or her heart. <br /><br />For those of you who call yourselves Christians and wish to hurl accusations at gay people, beyond remembering Jesus's admonition that only those without sin should cast stones, Paul went further to say ...<br /><br />Galatians 6:1-4<br />1 Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted. 2 Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. 3 For if anyone thinks he is something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 4 But let each one test his own work, and then his reason to boast will be in himself alone and not in his neighbor.<br /><br />The bottom line is that we are each responsible for our own spiritual walk, and not for anybody elses. You waste your time and actually do harm to the kingdom of God by spouting narrow-minded hate speech. So if you really are concerned for the souls of gay people, do what Jesus would have done--love them. (Jesus chose for his first disciple Matthew, who was both Jewish and a tax collector. To be Jewish and a tax collector was considered the worst sin imaginable and utterly unforgivable by the religious leaders of the first century.)Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-91172705777641808542011-06-27T09:50:03.332-05:002011-06-27T09:50:03.332-05:00Maybe I'll feel sorry about the dead gays in N...Maybe I'll feel sorry about the dead gays in New Orleans around the same time that the Left feels sorry about the entire Roman Catholic population of Moscow that was eliminated during the 1917 revolution, or the thousands of priests and nuns slaughtered and raped by the Spanish Republlican Army or the kids in Northern Ireland hassled during their walk to Holy Cross school or...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-9908117417153752342011-06-27T07:58:23.098-05:002011-06-27T07:58:23.098-05:00@Suzy- Strongly agreed! Too many parents seem to h...@Suzy- Strongly agreed! Too many parents seem to have accepted the idea that someone <i>else</i> can do the parenting for them, be it the schools, the television, or the streets. Dereliction of parental duty is one of the biggest reasons that our schools are turning out students who know less and less each year...but learn to put a condom on a banana before they learn long division.<br /><br />@79firebirdman- There are aspects of gay culture that <i>I'll</i> never accept as an "alternative lifestyle" too... just as I don't accept that label as an excuse for bizarre or promiscuous behaviors indulged in by some heteros. The flip side is that I <i>can</i> accept the alternative lifestyle of a pleasant "out of the closet" same-sex couple who live down the street and are just good neighbors. <br /><br />@Robert- "How 'bout those Cubs?" has to be my favorite post of the day. Thanks!Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-78066806326268141122011-06-27T04:05:57.244-05:002011-06-27T04:05:57.244-05:00Good Lord, I thought I was going to see my next bi...Good Lord, I thought I was going to see my next birthday before I got through all those comments. (grin)WMDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03823864136119114036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-33165534830258679612011-06-27T04:04:39.161-05:002011-06-27T04:04:39.161-05:00How 'bout those Cubs?How 'bout those Cubs?WMDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03823864136119114036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-74066655645970399622011-06-27T00:38:09.453-05:002011-06-27T00:38:09.453-05:00What people do behind closed doors in the privacy ...What people do behind closed doors in the privacy of their own homes is their business. What I find offensive is the militant, in-your-face attitude of gay activists, in trying to force me to accept something I will NEVER ACCEPT as an 'alternative' lifestyle. The gay lifestyle violates the very laws of nature and I find it reprehensible and repugnant. Go back in your closets and keep the gory details between consenting adults, I don't care to know. I know there is at least one gay poster here and I have nothing personal against him, nor do I hate him or any other gay person. Neither does he try to prosetlyze to the rest of us about his 'lifestyle', so kudos to him. Besides, anybody with conservative principles can't be all bad.79firebirdmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00269294946409422190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-90307085044715305912011-06-26T12:05:25.485-05:002011-06-26T12:05:25.485-05:00Kim CZ: Yes, parents have LONG been responsible f...Kim CZ: Yes, parents have LONG been responsible for the "sex ed" of their own children. Public schools began to teach children reading, 'riting, and 'rithmetic....not social issues and certainly not sex. One reason our country is going downhill is because parents are too lazy and irresponsible to raise their children and have gladly given up those FREEDOMS to the government...and now we have the government trying to parent, and doing an awfully BAD job of it. Our reading and math scores are dramatically lower than the scores of other countries...but by golly, our kids know how to recycle and use condoms!!!!Suzynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-80852688440578639362011-06-26T11:36:05.399-05:002011-06-26T11:36:05.399-05:00@Anonymous (above)- You certainly don't have m...@Anonymous (above)- You certainly don't have much faith in family structure if you think it's solely a construct of laws, and only continues to exist because of them.<br /><br />As far as reparations for slavery, I'm not only against them - I'm against continuing <i>present day</i> slavery in the form of abusive taxation and unrecompensed labor which the government takes by force...and which has already been levied on the children and grandchildren yet to be born on the politicians' plantation.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-9741595900569939222011-06-26T11:24:40.190-05:002011-06-26T11:24:40.190-05:00So, in order to atone for this admitted atrocity, ...So, in order to atone for this admitted atrocity, we must now discard 6,000 years of civilization and destroy the family completely?<br /><br />Next thing you know this cartoon will come out in favor of reparations for slavery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-84172616570871543862011-06-26T10:53:09.051-05:002011-06-26T10:53:09.051-05:00@Brian R- We're actually in agreement here; I ...@Brian R- We're actually in agreement here; I wasn't proposing that Conservatives start trying to please every special interest group to artificially win votes, as the Left does. We need to win in 2012, but our victory also needs to <i>mean</i> something.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-24125370933100078602011-06-26T10:32:35.986-05:002011-06-26T10:32:35.986-05:00Stilton wrote "Seriously, I knew I was going ...Stilton wrote "Seriously, I knew I was going to catch flak over today's post but did it anyway because I fear for our nation's very existence. I feel like we're hanging by a thread, and it pains me to see the voting blocs that Conservatives freely give away to the damnable Left. So "keeping it to myself" would have been the easier, but less responsible option."<br /><br />No Stilton. Voting blocks are just mobs. Mobs are Liberal. You should read Ann Coulter! She is not anti-gay, but she is anti-mob. When you start trying to please every special interest group out there, you have just become a politician, another word for liar. We may be hanging by a thread, but its not because were old-fashioned!Brian Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-55654010311411321582011-06-26T10:01:16.393-05:002011-06-26T10:01:16.393-05:00@Kim Cz & Grizzly- Both of you made comments w...@Kim Cz & Grizzly- Both of you made comments which ended up in the mysterious and much hated "spam" folder. Kim Cz had already reposted her remarks, and Grizzly's comment is now back in the stacks above. I'm sorry for any inconvenience; as I've said before the spam filter isn't something I can control.<br /><br />@Grizzly- I'm glad I <i>found</i> your comment and restored it, because it's a good one. As you surmised, I wasn't in any way equating opposition to Gay marriage to burning people alive...I was simply using that anniversary as an entryway to today's talking points.<br /><br />You and I politely disagree about whether homosexuality is inherently immoral... but we seem to agree on most of the other points, including legal protections and civil unions.<br /><br />And most importantly, we seem to agree that the very highest priorities for our government in the near term should be structural/financial rather than social. Which, come to think of it, is <i>always</i> how the system was supposed to work.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-28006461679596543612011-06-26T01:44:55.566-05:002011-06-26T01:44:55.566-05:00Okay, first things first, I haven't the patien...Okay, first things first, I haven't the patience to attach names to every point that I'm about to make. There are too many people with similar arguments. <br /><br />I'm afraid that I've not the total command of the Bible and all of it's companion material from the many denominations of the world to make a definitive, quotation by quotation response to the gentleman with all of the verses, but I would like to point out that regardless of whether Christ said any of the laws from the Old Testament were/are "good" he DID stand up for, protect and forgive people who committed sins. He was the one who tried to teach us to THINK before we judge others, regardless of what they're doing, or have done that might be "against the law," and if you really THINK about it, didn't he also have a thing about "judge not?" I'm not saying that it's possible to never judge even one person in a lifetime, that's beyond anyone, but I am saying that, as you might do with a neighbor who has an unhealthy obsession with pink plastic flamingos and twinkle lights, let it be. <br /><br />For those of you who think that there is only “one good and true interpretation of the Bible and the words of Christ,” do you still read it in the original languages? If you don't, I would ask that you don't try to tell me what my Bible or Savior are saying, because unless you can read, fluently and in the mindset of someone OF THE TIME WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN, you have no place to tell me that your TRANSLATION holds the only true meaning of the texts, as a student of the languages of the world, I feel it necessary to point out that, unless you've been born and lived to adulthood, immersed in a language and it's respective culture, it is HIGHLY unlikely that you will ever command the full understanding of it, as has a native speaker.<br /><br />To those against sex ed, and the teaching of alternative sexualities, are YOU going to explain to your children? Will you explain to your little girls the ins and outs of their reproductive systems? How about the many misconceptions in how to use contraceptives (Please don't try to fool yourself into thinking that your children are perfect, and that every single one of them will have the good sense and will power to remain abstinent.)? Are you going to explain to your children what sex IS, before you send them off to college, or marriage? If not, you need to send them to sex ed, because this knowledge is important. Furthermore, learning about alternative sexualities is not a subliminal message, telling your children to go out and do the sideways tango with others of the same sex, it is simply another bit of information on how the world and people work. Sexuality is completely hard wired into your brain, and sexual attraction can't be helped. <br />(This apparently didin't post the first time...)Kim Cznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-20636950428906958132011-06-26T01:40:54.112-05:002011-06-26T01:40:54.112-05:00I'm sorry that there are those of you out ther...I'm sorry that there are those of you out there who think that marriage should only be between a man and woman. I'm not going to judge you as being wrong, only disagree. If it helps, call it a civil union and let our FELLOW MAN live in a society that is that one step closer to being truly egalitarian. <br /><br />Finally, to those who have the twig and berries to decide whether or not I'm a good person, based on this post, I want you to think about a couple of other things, before deciding that your “Christian” views are the only right ones. Christianity is a faith of MacGyvering one's self. Our celebration of Christmas is taken from a millennia-old PAGAN tradition, based on the god and goddess of nature. Our celebration of Easter is from a similarly old PAGAN tradition, based on the fertility of Spring. It's quite literally based on a GIANT SEX PARTY. Many of our hymns can be traced back to folk songs that had nothing to do with Christianity. And finally, our entire faith is based on what we now consider a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT RELIGION. WARS have been fought over the differences between old and new, and you want to have a conniption over a PEACEFUL change in the law of man? The only reason that the fight for egalitarianism on the sexual front is so prominant now, is that we had to wait for the civil rights movement to give equal rights to heterosexual couples whose only sin was being born with a different skin tone, first. People in the times of the civil rights movement wondered why there was such a big fuss over that, as well. Their argument was the same as the person who made the claim about marriage being between a man and a woman “for eons,” except it was directed toward blacks being less human than whites.<br /><br />With all of that said, I'm going to go to bed, and dreaming of a world where people will not judge others- Period.<br /><br />Blessed Be – KimKim C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-35616027392330145002011-06-25T23:37:32.760-05:002011-06-25T23:37:32.760-05:00@Holypig: Exodus 35:2 states that those who work o...@Holypig: Exodus 35:2 states that those who work on the Sabbath shall be put to death. Since this is the clear word of God, who shall be the one who casts the first stone?<br /><br />I have horrible vision, so I wear glasses. Leviticus 21:17 - 21:20 says that I cannot go to church, even though I have gone to church, numerous times. Have I sinned?Maxwell Werginhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09713822336841849193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-75751138355306386352011-06-25T22:52:59.295-05:002011-06-25T22:52:59.295-05:00@Andrew- You make a great point. We're at such...@Andrew- You make a great point. We're at such a critical point that <i>all</i> of us should be looking past single-issue politics, and focusing only on what it takes to win a conservative supermajority in 2012. And whether people agree with me or not, that was the crux of today's post.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-60622970577655905832011-06-25T22:47:13.059-05:002011-06-25T22:47:13.059-05:00Stilton, thanks for providing this always interest...Stilton, thanks for providing this always interesting forum that has fast become a daily stop for me. Politically I'm all for not writing off votes for 2012, but in my experience gays tend to be single-issue, fantasy-world Leftists...and in any event are too microscopic a numeric minority, frankly, to matter. <br />We're capsized at sea in such a perfect storm of converging crises for both America and Western Civilization, each at its fatal tipping point, that one specific tiny niche lobby's bottomless need and endless shrill demands for adult attention, adult approval and external confirmation are an unaffordable distraction from the adults' urgent and serious fight for survival. These are serious, life and death times, and the gay agenda single-issue activists prove constantly that they have nothing more to contribute than the same old falsetto chorus of 'Don't Dream It, Be It." Yawn. Next?Andrewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-40525707757028747672011-06-25T21:50:53.474-05:002011-06-25T21:50:53.474-05:00@Anonymous (immediately above)- "Dehumanizing...@Anonymous (immediately above)- "Dehumanizing rhetoric." There's a nice phrase (and I mean that sincerely). Labels which dehumanize the individual are the enemy of freedom... whether those labels are applied to Christians, Blacks, or Gays. <i>No one</i> is a sterotype. <i>None of us</i> has been produced from a cookie-cutter.<br /><br />I'm not saying that we can't judge our fellow human beings - I do it all the time (and Liberals are found "wanting," to put it mildly). But I <i>am</i> saying that when we judge anyone by the group we assign them to instead of their individual characteristics, there's a good chance that we're doing so out of prejudice...and our judgement will be less than perfect.<br /><br />@Suzy- Beautifully expressed. I personally believe that people <i>can</i> believe in absolute moral truths without church doctrine... but I'm also either cynical or realistic enough to acknowledge that this <i>isn't</i> true for most people. <br /><br />You raise great questions about how or why the government can decide what is right or wrong... and I'll happily concede that frequently (especially lately) the government is <i>dead</i> wrong on many questions of morality.<br /><br />In other words, I don't have all the answers. But I have questions that I felt (and feel) were worth bringing up in this forum.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-63893400626083686632011-06-25T21:50:27.646-05:002011-06-25T21:50:27.646-05:00@Readers- Wow. What a freakin' day! First of a...@Readers- Wow. What a freakin' day! First of all, I've got to thank <i>everyone</i> for the opinions expressed, because that's the purpose of this site. Secondly, I've got to say that I knew this would be a hot button, but I spoke my mind <i>because I respect you</i> too much to be dishonest, even if I knew (or at least feared) that it would upset people.<br /><br />@Chuck- No, I wasn't so naive as to think that religion would not come up in relation to today's post. I wanted (and want) to steer things away from religion, but that's not in my control.<br /><br />You also asked that I stick to politics (good news! Tomorrow's post I'm back to kicking Obama's ass!) but please understand that it was my <i>intent</i> to be talking about politics today - and the need to make choices between alienating potential political allies or giving them to the Left by default.<br /><br />@Andrew- You make some good arguments. Are most Gays liberal? I don't know, but I suspect that's probably the case. But should we write off <i>everyone</i> who fits a certain category, denying their individuality? And if we do, will we find ourselves with too few votes to ever save our country?<br /><br />I honestly don't know...but it's my fear of that possibility that was the genesis of today's post.<br /><br />@Bobo- Nice to hear you're still speaking to me. All I need is five more friends and I'll have pallbearers! (tired grin)<br /><br />@Rick S- We're in agreement that it's not up to me to decide who is truly Christian. From what I understand (which admittedly may be insufficient), it's not up to men either.<br /><br />Regarding your other points, I don't equate homosexuality with pedophilia, bestiality, or necrophilia. In these matters, I'd like to hear from scientific experts who can finally determine whether we're talking about sin or neurology. Until I do, I can only offer my opinion.<br /><br />@Jim Hlavac- It's not true that no one here has shed a tear over the tragedy in New Orleans. There have been quite a few supportive comments, including from people of very strong faith. So please don't look at today's conversations and pronounce them "disgusting," as that's unproductive... and leaves me twisting uncomfortably in the wind as I try to make the case for tolerance and mutual understanding.<br /><br />@Holypig- You say "Every Christian agrees that the Bible is the perfect Word of God" but not every Christian agrees <i>what those words mean.</i> That's why there are different denominations. That's why there are Bible study classes. But by all means, when the Baptists, Methodists, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Lutherans, and Catholics all agree on <i>everything</i> in the Bible, please get back to me.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-77914269893158237062011-06-25T21:04:40.453-05:002011-06-25T21:04:40.453-05:00Sigh...I really shouldn't....but I'm going...Sigh...I really shouldn't....but I'm going to....<br /><br />The problem with government today is that, without God, there are no absolutes. There is no basis for morality. Law started with God...without Him, there would be no defining boundaries.<br /><br />The thing is, government has decided there is no defined God, no Bible that matters, and so therefore we now have no absolutes. Right and wrong are no longer. After all, without God, how can there be right and wrong?<br /><br />What gives government the right, if there is no God, to say that its okay to be gay but not a polygamist? What gives the government the right, if there is no God, to decide that tobacco is okay but marijuana is not? What gives government the right, if there is not God, to tell us what alcohol is legal and what is not? How old we have to be to consume it? What inconsistencies we have in law today!!! Law seems to float towards whoever is making the loudest protest to change it, or create it. Yesterday's morality isn't today's morality and it won't be tomorrow's morality, because without God, there is no definition to morality at all.<br /><br />My point is, if we have the Bible, we can see what is wrong and what is right. There are absolutes...there is a foundation upon which laws and rules and boundaries can be built.<br /><br />Without God and the Bible, we have no absolutes other than the conscience of whatever government we happen to have at the time. (Its getting scarier and scarier). Conscience can change. Absolute truth cannot. Each of us has a different natural conscience, and if that is our only guide, then we end up, eventually, running around like the children in Lord of the Flies, each of us following our inner selves as best as we can.<br /><br />Which is why I personally believe (and know) the Bible is so very important, and God...because without God, and without the Bible, there are no absolutes, and there is no Truth, and therefore there is no basis for ANY law, or any rule, or any state of being, other than the whim of the people. Our founding fathers knew this...do the research.<br /><br />***Disclaimer*** This was not meant to be against any one but only to state my personal views on Christianity and law, and the relationship between the two, generally speaking.****Suzynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-21086970004564006912011-06-25T20:44:47.687-05:002011-06-25T20:44:47.687-05:00May I rant? mmm dehumanizing rhetoric, like
Jesu...May I rant? mmm dehumanizing rhetoric, like<br /><br />Jesus Freaks<br />Climate Deniers<br />Warmongers<br />Racists<br />KKK lovers<br />Christo-fascist godbags<br />greedy fatcats<br />baby killers<br /><br />Or, any of these delightful pontifications from a recent tragedy.<br /><br />http://thegraph.com/2011/01/leftists-take-to-twitter-to-blamethreaten-beck-palin-and-tea-party-for-az-shooting/<br /><br />As someone who could technically be legally murdered in the state of Missouri until 1976 under:<br /><br />Missouri Executive Order 44<br /><br />If I may say this with all due respect and understanding to your situation, the personality types that do these awful things are actually non-ideological or partisan (though they often lead the armies) simply they go where the power is because that's what they crave. Atheism/Religion pro/against it doesn't matter to them for they worship themselves. The current Republican/Conservative movement for now lacks the sufficient media/cultural power to be of any real magnet to the majority of Crusaders and Inquisitors.<br /><br />That may change some day but even a coordinated motivated coupe of cultural, judicial, education, and media institutions, takes more then a generation. For now you are "safe" as long as your "group" votes 60+% democrat and you mostly hang around Republicans. For evidence, look how Black Americans were treated last time they voted against democrats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-10655051070774825462011-06-25T20:20:34.171-05:002011-06-25T20:20:34.171-05:00Opps, Holypig is Rick Swartzentrover - I don't...Opps, Holypig is Rick Swartzentrover - I don't know why it switched my Website with my name.Rick Swartzentroverhttp://www.holypig.comnoreply@blogger.com