tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post7943710398395543631..comments2023-08-05T07:24:04.413-05:00Comments on Hope n' Change Cartoons: Vulture CultureUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-49885402812640545982011-01-11T00:29:03.305-06:002011-01-11T00:29:03.305-06:00Poor Mitch can't answer a simple question. All...Poor Mitch can't answer a simple question. All he can do is spout nonsense and pull the "Full Alinsky".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-76623534579983940102011-01-10T23:37:10.242-06:002011-01-10T23:37:10.242-06:00Pete in Detroit ... actually I knew they no longer...Pete in Detroit ... actually I knew they no longer come with toys! I am from N. Nevada, right across the Sierra's from the 'Land of Pelosi', so we get the news each night from them as well. That was just my kind of backdoor way of citing another stupidly lame thing our liberal, self-appointed 'caretakers' have seen fit to put their usually over educated noses into. The point being, the more absurd the item, the more it points at too much education, no jobs, no common sense; so 'make up a crisis so [they] can collect money and force others into my belief structure'. Before I am accused of being "jealous" of their educations ... I AM a degreed professional, but actually WORK and produce product. I don't get rich scaring people and forcing them to like what I like, eat ehat I eat, drink what I drink and worship how I worship, whether they like it or not, as so many of our liberal friends dedicate their lives to doing.<br />But of course, I do also realize you are 'just pulling my chain' ... ROFLMAO <br />BUT, If we let them continue ... soon the Happy Meal will be just that! (though without the sticker, because I don't beieve they can get one that is 'green enough' for the folks who live in 'the land of fruits and nuts')Doc - Northern Nevadanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-2433263573601631942011-01-10T20:43:48.106-06:002011-01-10T20:43:48.106-06:00Mr. Mitch- Yes, of course there's a written ex...<i>Mr. Mitch</i>- Yes, <i>of course</i> there's a written examination. This is a political blog, and I include links to numerous sources to explain, or at least illuminate, my daily opinions. We're all playing by the same rules here.<br /><br />And to reply to your comment, I've never heard ANY conservative talk radio host say that "all liberals are evil devils who should be purged from the earth," let alone that they should be dealt with anyplace other than the ballot box. So absent evidence, you're either in error or (and I say this with deep regret and honest concern) delusional. Let's assume it's the former, because I'd like to think we're friends now. <br /><br />You then go on to cite the "folks" who have respect for Ellen Weiss of NPR. Although you actually only manage to cite <i>one</i> folk: Andrew Sutton, who was her once her employee, and whose company later provided "research, marketing, and management consulting services to public radio" - in other words, someone who <i>continued</i> to receive paychecks at Ms. Weiss's pleasure. Nope, no conflict of interest there.<br /><br />Can you cite <i>any</i> journalists who admire Ms. Weiss's standards? Do <i>you</i> believe that Juan Williams should have been fired? And do you think NPR violated <i>their</i> journalistic integrity by showing Ellen Weiss the door, and are now less journalistically reputable than they were before?<br /><br />See, there's actually a written examination here <i>every day.</i>Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-17488161297150162762011-01-10T19:37:01.984-06:002011-01-10T19:37:01.984-06:00Oh, and Mr. Cheese, there are folks who respect El...Oh, and Mr. Cheese, there are folks who respect Ellen Weiss: http://bit.ly/hDTUvaMitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04642299351567615128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-61504349512724436332011-01-10T19:14:38.545-06:002011-01-10T19:14:38.545-06:00I'm sorry, Mr. Cheese, I didn't realize th...I'm sorry, Mr. Cheese, I didn't realize this would be a written examination.<br /><br />Of course, I don't make notes of incendiary comments I hear on talk radio, but I have heard them, often, from the hosts: usually along the lines of 'all liberals are evil devils and should be purged from the earth,' I'm surprised you don't hear that.<br /><br />@"anonymous," how did you arrive at the conclusion that "all opinions are equal?" Compared to what? Is a "full alinsky" akin to shouting "SOROS!" in a crowded theatre?Mitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04642299351567615128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-81444787446326086612011-01-10T17:57:25.828-06:002011-01-10T17:57:25.828-06:00Hey, Doc, haven't you heard? 'Happy meals&...Hey, Doc, haven't you heard? 'Happy meals' don't come w/ toys anymore..<br />or fries<br />or burgers<br />just a couple of carrot sticks, some fruit and some eco-friendly stickers.<br />Hardly a meal, and not much happy...<br />/sarc (but only half)Pete(Detroit)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-25578023689923313512011-01-10T17:14:26.659-06:002011-01-10T17:14:26.659-06:00Hey Mitch, Answer the question...
"If all op...Hey Mitch, Answer the question...<br /><br />"If all opinions are equal, how come a liberal who disagrees with a conservative is open-minded, but a conservative who disagrees with a liberal is a bigot?"<br /><br />Or maybe you can't Mitch... because all you seen to be able to do is pull a "Full Alinsky".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-16558412983346854022011-01-10T16:58:08.384-06:002011-01-10T16:58:08.384-06:00Mitch- Okay, good, now we're having a conversa...<i>Mitch</i>- Okay, good, now we're having a conversation. <br /><br />Seriously - you really <i>do</i> believe you hear hate speech and incitement to violence on the conservative shows you listed? Can you share any examples? In complete candor, I've <i>never</i> heard anything remotely like that - and would be extremely bothered if I did.<br /><br />Have I heard an occasional yahoo caller who has said something stupid? Yes...and they're always immediately shot down (if you'll pardon the expression) by the host. And I've heard similarly stupid callers on more left-leaning shows, but don't blame the host for the idiocy of the caller (as long as the host immediately distances himself or herself from the sentiments).<br /><br />I can't say I'm a frequent listener to the various NPR shows you've listed as favorites. I do know that Ellen Weiss, the senior vice president in charge of News, resigned last week after an internal panel found that she had acted improperly in the firing of Juan Williams (and publicly accusing him of insanity - which seems like attempted career assassination). <br /><br />But to be fair, let me say that it's to NPR's credit that their own panel found Weiss's behavior and news judgement unacceptable and encouraged her to find the Exit door. I'd like to think that it might indicate some desire on their part to start moving more toward the center.<br /><br />Williams, a black liberal, said of NPR that there is "a culture there that is not open to real news, that is not open to all points of view, that is not open to the real world around us and to the many different dynamics, perspectives and life stories that animate America."<br /><br />So it's good that you're listening to multiple news sources and viewpoints (which is a good idea for <i>all</i> of us)...and interesting that you think you hear what I don't on the conservative side, and apparently haven't noticed what seems to be missing or misrepresented on the liberal side.<br /><br />Blind spots? Selective perception? We probably <i>all</i> have them, and need to work to get past them.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-68826773463466190952011-01-10T16:12:28.815-06:002011-01-10T16:12:28.815-06:00Yes, I have - for years - listened to Hannity, to ...Yes, I have - for years - listened to Hannity, to Beck, to Limbaugh, to Weiner, to Gene Burns, to Phil Valentine, to On Point Radio, to Diane Rehm, to Talk of the Nation.<br /><br />Lately I prefer the latter to the former, with the exception of Valentine.Mitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04642299351567615128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-19231430386872333482011-01-10T15:49:37.300-06:002011-01-10T15:49:37.300-06:00Current score: Suzy 1, Mitch 0Current score: Suzy 1, Mitch 0Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-48195470473006248112011-01-10T15:35:15.692-06:002011-01-10T15:35:15.692-06:00"Selective Perception" means he has to g..."Selective Perception" means he has to go check CNN real quick for what to say next....Suzynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-46317352121140578962011-01-10T14:41:18.372-06:002011-01-10T14:41:18.372-06:00Mitch- I guess I need to buy a vowel to decipher y...<i>Mitch</i>- I guess I need to buy a vowel to decipher your ironic meaning. You say "selective perception" but don't even hint at what you're talking about.<br /><br />Are you saying that you listen to Rush Limbaugh regularly and DO hear hate speech and calls to violence that other people <i>don't</i> hear? Have you had this problem long? Does it happen even when the radio isn't plugged in?Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-68584292255867983422011-01-10T14:30:48.519-06:002011-01-10T14:30:48.519-06:00Hey Mitch, Why won't you answer the question?
...Hey Mitch, Why won't you answer the question?<br /><br />"If all opinions are equal, how come a liberal who disagrees with a conservative is open-minded, but a conservative who disagrees with a liberal is a bigot?"<br /><br />We're all waiting...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-51539707168481754842011-01-10T14:25:09.872-06:002011-01-10T14:25:09.872-06:00I believe the term is "selective perception.&...I believe the term is "selective perception."Mitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04642299351567615128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-47607051200798516882011-01-10T14:11:27.897-06:002011-01-10T14:11:27.897-06:00Anonymous Earl- It's funny how much is reveale...<i>Anonymous Earl</i>- It's funny how much is revealed about a person any time I hear them accuse Rush of "hate speech." I immediately know that I'm dealing with a person who doesn't know what they're talking about, who forms opinions without facts, who subsitutes emotion for logic, and is too ignorant to either know or care that they're doing all of the above.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-23562230236845153542011-01-10T13:32:41.962-06:002011-01-10T13:32:41.962-06:00I tune in talk radio every day and have for many y...I tune in talk radio every day and have for many years. I started doing this when I heard about the angry rhetoric of Limbaugh. I wanted to find out for myself what his alleged "hate speech" was all about. I was pleasantly surprised. He was nothing like how he was labeled. I found and continue to find him a breath of fresh air amidst the deliberate smog from others in the media. Most people who condemn him have never listened to him and only repeat the lies perpetrated by his jealous detractors. Rush doesn't tell us what to think; we listen to him because he speaks our minds with intelligence, common sense and humor. He is particularly helpful reminding us of hypocrisy from the left. There's so much of it, one mind can't remember all the misinformation. May he live long and prosper. The same goes for you Stilton. You're a kindred spirit. <br />EarlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-15913955716874295662011-01-10T13:07:57.246-06:002011-01-10T13:07:57.246-06:00Mitch- How dare you threaten me with the word &quo...<i>Mitch</i>- How dare you threaten me with the word "club"?!<br /><br />Meanwhile, I understood your "three hours a day on the radio" but couldn't understand your <i>point:</i> Sullivan doesn't (to my knowledge) have such a show, and Rush Limbaugh - whom I listen to - doesn't in any way encourage violence or physical actions of any kind.<br /><br />Do you listen to Limbaugh? Or Hannity? Or Beck? Or any talk radio? Or are you just spouting what you "know" to be true without personal evidence?<br /><br />Please, put the game-playing aside for a bit. I've invited you to engage in a little civil and honest discourse, but that doesn't seem to be what you want. I'm <i>trying</i> to help promote you from troll to "loyal opposition," but you need to work with me by providing the occasional fact.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-3631040644406043292011-01-10T12:34:48.456-06:002011-01-10T12:34:48.456-06:00Mr. Cheese, while you and your club are defending ...Mr. Cheese, while you and your club are defending Sarah Palin, I thought you should consider the wider world of talk radio (three hours a day on the radio, get it now?). That's the real breeding ground for invective and ill speech. Next time I'll bring it to your level so you can more easily understand me.Mitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04642299351567615128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-75657214228923599022011-01-10T12:23:57.543-06:002011-01-10T12:23:57.543-06:00Mitch- Actually, your post was deleted because it ...<i>Mitch</i>- Actually, your post was deleted because it seemed to bear no relevance to today's topic. If your intention was <i>ironic</i>, I'll confess it must have been too subtle for me to catch.<br /><br />Here is what you posted:<br /><br /><i>"The think (sic) I find most abhorrent about Andrew Sullivan is his three-hour a day radio program, his weeknight hour on Cable News, and how all those hate and invective shows are repeated, ad nauseum over weekend radio."</i> <br /><br />I'll confess that I still don't catch either irony or relevance here... but readers can judge for themselves.<br /><br />But here's a suggestion: why not try engaging in some honest conversation here, and share your opinions? I genuinely welcome opposing viewpoints from people who have something substantive to say. I've even been known to concede an argument or two...so it <i>can</i> be done. But only by those who bring facts to the table instead of snark.Stilton Jarlsberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14503164551782304564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-53833970385457282452011-01-10T11:50:47.326-06:002011-01-10T11:50:47.326-06:00Hey Mitch, can you answer a question for me?
Her...Hey Mitch, can you answer a question for me? <br /><br />Here goes, "If all opinions are equal, how come a liberal who disagrees with a conservative is open-minded, but a conservative who disagrees with a liberal is a bigot?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-45019597127551337722011-01-10T11:41:15.879-06:002011-01-10T11:41:15.879-06:00Suggesting that Sarah Palin had anything to do wit...Suggesting that Sarah Palin had anything to do with that madman's motivations is a form of political Butterfly Effect unheard of in the past and sustainable only by a liberal media incessantly bleating like a sheep with it's foot wrapped in barbed wire. Indeed, it is enough to gag a maggot, let alone choke a vulture.Angry Hoosier Dadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-3685761629285405752011-01-10T11:24:34.556-06:002011-01-10T11:24:34.556-06:00Oh my, apparently my last post included too much i...Oh my, apparently my last post included too much irony. I thought the Cheese man was a master at humor and irony, but I guess I only used half the word.Mitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04642299351567615128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-39060257011888888772011-01-10T11:02:03.414-06:002011-01-10T11:02:03.414-06:00To set the record straight (and avoid anyone readi...To set the record straight (and avoid anyone reading trying to assign blame to Drowning Pool), those lyrics are about dancing in a mosh pit, not killing people. However, they can be easily misconstrued, especially by an insane person looking for meaning. And that's the point. <br /><br />In my opinion, any person that decides violence is the answer, whether due to mental illness or calculated malice, is disturbed in some manner. Even, if the killing was politically motivated, that is not an excuse to blame any groups he may have identified with either on the right or the left or anywhere in between.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-83477651181980012842011-01-10T10:32:26.753-06:002011-01-10T10:32:26.753-06:00Folks, this appears to me as much a "turtle o...Folks, this appears to me as much a "turtle on a fence" as any I have seen in the past two years. I can't help but believe this was a coordinated effort to stop the repeal of obamacare. Time will tell, and I hope that time will prove me wrong.Scooter Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02895247292767105862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8993108951931633758.post-76728339627017343012011-01-10T10:19:06.755-06:002011-01-10T10:19:06.755-06:00Here is what I posted yesterday to our western US ...Here is what I posted yesterday to our western US group ... understand much of it is "toungue in cheek" statements.<br />Those of you I spoke with yesterday know that I warned you the Obummer political gang would do EXACTLY what they are now doing!! They learned thier lessons from 'Dead Fish' Emanuel very well!<br />Riddle me this: How can you possibly equate a hard line left wing whack job who kills, or tries to anyhow, one of his own left wingers (albeit she reportedly was more moderate than most of them) with being inspired and driven to do it by Sarah Palin and the Conservative Tea Party Movement? When they represent everything he openly despised, posted about and studied? <br />Answer: Never, ever, waste a good crisis! Spin It against your political opponents!<br />Already the Progressive Socialist Liberals are trying to spin this to be the Conservative movements fault! The MSM is falling right in line and blasting it all over how it was 'Palin's fault'. (They must be REALLY, truly and seriously scared of her!)<br />WE, YOU AND I, drove him to this! Don't you understand? What's wrong with you right wing gun nuts? We need to take away all your guns and common sense, you silly misguided Conservative Constitutionalists!<br />This is tantamount to saying the bank teller caused the robbery, the United States caused the Islamic Fundamentalist terrorists to attack us and the rest of the world, the rape victims caused the sexual assaults, McDonalds caused the clumsy oaf to spill coffee on herself and get burned, and video games made them do it! Oh wait ... the bleeding heart Progressive Liberal Socialist whiners have ALREADY SAID THESE THINGS and the Judges like Sotomayor have already 'made laws from the bench' supporting it!! It is NEVER EVER the perpetrators fault ... his Mommy, her Daddy, or 'Society' made them do what they do! <br />What has happened to being responsible for your own actions? Why he got like he is, is not my concern, nor do I give a rat's A@@ "why". I am sorry he is a few toys short of a Happy Meal, but it is no one else's fault! <br />He did it, he should pay for it. I'll even volunteer to hook up the IV's and push the damn plunger in for them! I won't lose a single seconds sleep over it either, while saving the State of Arizona (or the Feds) the multi-million dollar fees it supposedly costs to execute someone!<br />I have no doubt when all is said and done (mark my words for future reference) - we will be supporting this whacked out S.O.B./P.O.S. for the rest of his miserably long life in some federal country club - living better than a whole lot of our fellow citizens! <br />I hear them whining in my nightmares already .... "Poor baby, he didn't mean it ... he is just a misguided young person, tortured by his rejection from military service, the mean old tea party that wouldn't kiss his a@@ and give him everything he wanted for free, and besides Sarah Palin 'targeted' Giffords and friends for removal during the election - so he just did what they said - it is nooooot hiiiiiis fauuuuult!" <br />Off my soapbox for now ... but please trust me when I predict ... "the El Toro Poo Poo is just starting to impact the oscillating air movement devices!" (Cover your heads!) Have a pleasant rest of your weekend! <br />DocDoc - Northern Nevadanoreply@blogger.com